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20 Ecumenical Councils

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The traditional Catholic Church of 2000 years vs a new novel conciliar religion of Rome?

The word "ecumenical" comes from the Greek word "oikos", meaning "house". The councils of the Catholic Church dating back to the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.E. were convened or the "house of God"; i.e., represented by the bishops from around the world, but not from the religions of the world; that is, outside the Catholic Church, "ex ecclesiam". The occupants of the household of God were called "Christians", members of Christen-dom, Acts 11:26; from the Latin word "domus" meaning "house"; thus "house of Christians". So, only those in Christendom were invited to these councils.


The purpose of these councils, as will be discuss later, was to; ONE; to clarify and teach truth, and TWO; to identify and condemn heresies threatening the Church at the time of that council.


What was this the purpose of the Second Vatican Council convened by John XIII in 1962? 

Sixty years later, what is the result?

Many ask; is the Church in Rome today the same Holy Catholic Church that it was during the reign of Pope St Damasus 1st who authorized St Jerome in 382 to compile the original canon scriptures? or is it the same Church it was during Pope Paul III who convened the Council of Trent in 1545 to memorialize the tenets of the Catholic doctrines into the great catechism that cemented all the basic teachings of the Catholic Church prior to the heresies caused by the Protestant Revolution in the 16th century? or Pope St Pius X, who in 1907 spoke out vigorously against "modernism" that he characterized as "the most pernicious of all heresies"? These pious Popes are among the 260 Popes since St Peter who reigned over Christ Church defending it against heresies prior John XXIII who convened the Second Vatican Council in 1962.


1.  Would any of these faithful Popes abandon the original Holy Mass Our Lord established in that upper room the night before His crucifixion and then allow someone like Paul VI to establish a new Mass he called "Novus Ordo Missae" fashioned after a Lutheran “memorial of the Last Supper" and then turn around and invite the very "protesters" against the Catholic Church to come take part in the Novus Ordo Mass new modern Rome has setup, as if this was acceptable to our Lord? 

2.   Would the great piously reigning Popes PRIOR to Vatican II allow a prayer meeting like what happened in Assisi in 1986 by John Paul II to take place? It was an "interfaith" "false ecumenical meeting" where he invited religious leaders of all faiths to join together in a COMMON prayer. This had never occurred in all Church history. Jews, Muslims, Eastern Orthodox Patriarchs, Protestant Churches and Buddhists around the world were welcomed to share common worship services of their various religions in St Peter's Basilica in Rom. They call it "ecumenism". It's no wonder when we ask priests of the new modern Novus Ordo conciliar religion today, they say, "It's no longer necessary to convert to Catholicism to enter Christ Church and be saved, since all are acceptable to God now."

4.  Virtually every Pope prior to Vatican II held to the Catholic dogma, "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus", Outside the Church No Salvation, yet Benedict XVI in 1968 in a document clearly contradicted all the previous Popes and their infallible teaching on this central matter in the Church. Once again, another indication that something drastic happened during and after Vatican II. ("Necessita della missione della Chiesa nel mondo," in La Fine della Chiesa come Societa Perfetta, Verona: Mondatori, 1968)

5.  Now Francis, during the Amazon Synod when he violated the very First Commandment of God; "Thou Shalt not have any strange gods against me", by bringing a statue of the pagan god "Pachamama" into St Pete's Basilica in Rome and bowed before it in worship. (a fertility sex goddess, an Inca "earth mother") So, Francis venerates a pagan god Pachamama and then denigrates the Blessed Virgin Mary by denying the immaculate conception and that she is now Queen of Heaven and Mother of God. And Francis denies the actual presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist since Vatican II. Most recently Francis sanctions and promotes same sex marriages; contracting 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, read the Douay Rheims version in verse 10.


Is it any wonder that many point to Revelations chapters 17 & 18, that the Vatican City in Rome has become an adulterous place called "Babylon the Great" whose sins have amassed clear up to heaven due to the sins and plagues of her apostasy; Rev. 18:5.

Every single occupant of the seat of Peter since the death of Pope Pius XII has engaged in heresy and blasphemy contradicting all the 260 Popes previous to the Second Vatican Council. Many conclude these last six men are anti-popes or not popes at all. What is true is that heretics cannot be popes and popes cannot be heretics. Otherwise, Christ own words would be contradictory when He said, "the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church". Matthew 16:18; He promised that neither idolatry, heresy, nor any pernicious error whatsoever shall prevail in the Holy Catholic Church. So what does this all mean that's going on in "modern" Rome today? How did this happen? Can Catholics be in union with a new religion that now occupies Rome with men occupying St Peter's seat that teach and promote a different faith from that of our Lord?

The three attributes or properties in the Catholic Church that must forever abide are infallibility, indefectibility, and authority. These are inherent in the very nature of the Catholic Church and cannot be separated from her. Anyone, including a Pope, who violates anyone of these attributes would be considered a heretic (one who knowingly promotes teachings outside the Catholic Church dogma) and is no longer a Catholic much less a Pope. For more details, see page 9 on this site, entitled "EENS". 

Of course, most who follow modernist thinking that actually began before Vatican II as Pope St Pius X pointed out, will denigrate anyone clinging to Catholic tradition of "EENS" as a "Feenyite", pointing the Father Leonard Feeny as an apostate who was excommunicated in 1953. But no one can answer, why? See page 8 on this website "EENS" for more information. Most trad Catholics today do not accept Father Feeny's position on EENS and baptism of desire. This is further evidence of the far reaching effects of modernism St Pius X spoke about. Vatican II did appear in a vacuum

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"The Church In Crisis" is one of many books outlining the ecumenical councils and the heresies the Popes had to deal with along with the betrayers Christ since Judas Iscariot. Click on the photo for a list of some of the main heresies these councils dealt with. (Click photo)

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What is vital to realize and fully understand is that every ecumenical council since Nicaea up until the First Vatican Council in 1870 maintained all aspects of the entire traditions of the Catholic Church; remember the "only" reason for a Pope to call for an ecumenical council was when something outside threatened the traditions of the Church. THIS ALL CHANGED WITH VATICAN II. (Ck Photo)

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John XXIII opened the Second Vatican Council on 11 October 1962 in a public session and read the declaration "Gaudet Mater Ecclesia" before the Council Fathers, in his opening address.

"What is needed at the present time is a NEW enthusiasm, a NEW joy and NEW serenity of mind in the unreserved acceptance by all of the entire Christian faith, without forfeiting that accuracy and precision in its presentation which characterized the proceedings of the Council of Trent and the First Vatican Council. What is needed, and what everyone imbued with a truly Christian, Catholic and apostolic spirit craves today, is that this NEW doctrine shall be more widely known, more deeply understood, and more penetrating in its effects on men's NEW moral lives. What is needed is that this certain and immutable doctrine, to which the faithful owe obedience, be studied afresh and reformulated in contemporary NEW terms. For this deposit of faith, or truths which are contained in our time-honored teaching is one thing; the manner in which these truths are set forth (with their meaning preserved intact) is something else."

General Ecumenical Councils were convened to deal with HERESIES being spread in the Church and/or to affirm infallible Catholic dogma. In 1958-1962 there were no reasons for a council.

So, this begs the question: Why would John XXIII call for Vatican II Council?  SATAN

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So, what did John XXIII attack first? A heresy, a false teaching? J23 attacked the Catholic Liturgy.


The Liturgy is the collection of symbols, chants and acts by means of which the Church expresses and manifests its religion towards God. In the Old Testament, in a very real way, God was the liturgist: He specified the most minute details of the worship to render to Him. But that was but a shadow of the sublime worship in the New Testament which Christ the High Priest wanted His Holy Catholic Church to continue until the end of the world. In the Liturgy of the Catholic Church, everything is important, everything is sublime, down to the tiniest details, a truth which moved St. Teresa of Avila to say: "I would give my life for the smallest ceremony of Holy Church." 


Please review page 4 of this site, "The Mass" for more details.

In order to understand the impact of Vatican II, we first must explore a few details of Vatican I.  (Click photo)

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Pope Pius IX opened the First Vatican Council in 1869; cut short by French Revolution. 


Pius IX at Vatican I needed to define, among other things, "INFALLIBILITY" of "ex cathedra" doctrinal definitions. Vatican I Council taught that Catholics must believe with divine faith everything whatever the Church teaches to be divinely revealed [Extraordinary Magisterium] or by the ordinary and "universal" Magisterium. (Denzinger 1792) They are equally infallible. Why? Gallicanism was being widely propagated in France and the entire Church in the 18th Century. (Wikipedia)

"Gallicanism was the theory that the power of monarchs is independent of the power of popes, and that the church of each country should be under the joint control of the pope and the monarch. The opposite doctrine is known as Ultramontanism."

"Ultramontanism is the teachings or 'magisterium of the Popes.'"


During the First Vatican Council in 1870, Pope Pius IX attacked and defended the authority and "infallibility" of the Papacy in direct contradiction to the heresy of Gallicanism.  (Click photo)

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Since all decrees and encyclicals of ecumenical councils by the Popes are "infallible", they become "Dogma of the Faith" and these pronouncements can never be changed by any future Pope since they represent the teachings of the successors of Peter who was given authority by Jesus Christ. 

John XXIII in 1962 knew of these rules of faith and knew full well the teachings of Vatican I as being "infallibility" for all Popes. Therefore, John XXIII or any of his successors up to the present couldn't change or nullify any of the Dogma of Faith since Vatican I.  

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema." Galatians 1:8-9


John XXIII died in 1963, then Cardinal Montinie became  PAUL VI  in 1963; father of  the new Ecumenism. 

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 Fast forward twenty years to John Paul II who said in the Angelus Address, Oct. 12, 1986:

“In a few days we shall go to Assisi, representatives of the Catholic Church, along with other 'Christian Churches'(?) and ecclesial communities (?) and of the great religions (?) of the world. I issued this invitation to ‘believers of all religions.'” (?) 


On Oct. 27, 1986, John Paul II prayed with over 100 different religious leaders of various false religions, thereby repudiating the teaching of Scripture and the 2000-year teaching of the Catholic Church outlawing prayer with false religions. The entire day of prayer with the pagans, infidels, and heretics was John Paul II’s idea and they came at his invitation. During this meeting, the Dalai Lama placed a Buddhist statue on the tabernacle in the Church of St. Francis.  Among the various false religious leaders at Assisi, there were rabbis, Islamic muftis, Buddhist monks, Shintoists, assorted Protestant ministers, Animists, Jainists and others. During the meeting, a member of each false religion came forward and offered a prayer for peace." Why did he do this? Read on~

Two months after the 1986 Assisi event, in a Christmas speech to his Cardinals published in the Vatican’s L’Osservatore Romano, John Paul II said; 

“The day of Assisi, showing the Catholic Church holding hands with our brothers (?) of other religions, was a visible expression of [the] statements of the Second Vatican Council. ”

Paul VI on 12th January 1966: "In view of the pastoral nature (?) of Vatican II Council, it avoided any extraordinary statements of dogmas endowed with the note of infallibility but it still provided its teaching with the authority of the Ordinary Magisterium which must be accepted with docility according to the mind of the Council concerning the nature and aims of each document."

Let's compare to what Pope Pius XI decreed in 1928; Mortalium Animos to Paul VI in 1986.

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“For which reason conventions, meetings and addresses are frequently arranged by these persons, at which a large number of listeners are present, and at which all without distinction are invited to join in the discussion, both infidels of every kind, and Christians. Certainly such attempts can no wise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy. Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but distorting the idea of true religion they reject it.”

“So, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics…”

"Those who hold such a view fall into an open error; they also reject the true Religion; they distort its tenets and fall gradually into Naturalism and Atheism. Therefore, it is perfectly evident that one who joins with the partisans and propagators of similar doctrine abandons entirely the divinely revealed Religion.” 

Pope Pius XI was reiterating Magisterial teachings of the Church for centuries.


"If any ecclesiastic or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meeting-houses of the heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of communion. If any bishop or priest or deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from communion.

(III Council of Constantinople)"


"No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics." (Council of Laodicea)"


"We decree that those who give credence to the teachings of the heretics, as well as those who receive, defend or patronize them, are excommunicated. [...] If anyone refuses to avoid such accomplices after they have been ostracized by the Church, let them also be excommunicated."

(IV Lateran Council) 


"That Christians and ecclesiastics should pray for Christian unity under the direction of heretics and, what is worse, according to an intention which is radically impregnated and vitiated with heresy, is absolutely impossible to tolerate!" (Pope Pius XI) 


"One must neither pray nor sing psalms with heretics, and whoever shall communicate with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated." (Council of Carthage)



"Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with different seeds, lest both the seed that thou hast sown and the fruit of the vineyard be sanctified together." (Deuteronomy 22:9)

"And the good seed are the children of the kingdom; and the cockle are the children of the wicked one." (Matthew 13:38)

"Do not work together with unbelievers, for what does justice have in common with injustice?"

(2 Cor 6:14)  (Click photo)

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There are 16 documents contained in the Second Vatican Council edicts. What we just reviewed was one decree; UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO.  


Today is unlike any time in history. Jesus foretold an apostasy would occur to His Church in the "last days", a term many refuse to acknowledge. At times likes like this "without" a legitimate magisterium, a properly consecrated infallible faithful Pope on St Peter's seat in Rome since the death of Pope Pius XII, Catholics must deal with this situation by girding themselves with knowledge and awareness of the times we live. Jesus said, "Amen I say to you, that this generation shall not pass away, till all these things are done." Matt. 24:34. 


Click on the photos below to compare pre-Vatican II, Pius XII documents to post-Vatican II, Paul VI pronouncements as to the authority in the Church. Yes, it's lengthy, but this could mean your eternal soul if you're a Catholic and must follow St Peter's faithful successors. 


Suffice to say, against a backdrop of centuries of "infallible" teachings of the Church, it's clear to see that the actions of the post Vatican II church are guilty of heresy, if not outright "apostasy". SATAN


Cardinal Walter Kasper, Prefect of Vatican Council for Promoting Christian Unity: “… today we no longer understand ecumenism in the sense of a return, by which the others would ‘be converted’ and return to being Catholics. This was expressly abandoned by Vatican II.” (Adista, Feb. 26, 2001)


Below is a 808 page book published in 2019 providing exhaustive details of the full historic account and proceedings of Vatican II from eyewitnesses and attendees. What's remarkable is how far back in time the events that lead to the infiltration of heretical teachings of Vatican II go and the diabolical nature of how these heresies were introduced. SATAN 

There are many more books and articles available to offer full proof documentation on the things brought out on this site thus far. (Click on book below)


Are Catholics Anti-Semitic? No. The Catholic Church and traditional Catholics are not "anti-Semitic". Catholics cling to Jesus words as outlined in Matthew 23 below; ANYONE, Jews or otherwise, who reject Jesus as the Messiah, the Christ, are God's enemies. Their history, long before Jesus, points out that they rejected not only the foretold Messiah, but all the prophets who clearly pointed out in 365 prophecies all that Jesus fulfilled, but Jesus also labeled Jews as killers of the great prophet sent to help them. Jesus said that the house of Israel, the Jewish nation has been abandoned by God because of their grave sins against God. The Jews today are not the descendants of Abraham or King Da


This said, the Catholic Church welcomes Jews today to repent and accept Jesus as Messiah. If they do not, Jesus words above apply. "If you are not for me, you are against me." Matthew 12:30.


Matthew 23:31-38

"[31] Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets. [32] Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. [33] You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell? [34] Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city: [35] That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar.

[36] Amen I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation. [37] Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou wouldest not? [38] Behold, your house (Jews) shall be left to you, desolate (abandoned to you)."


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Who has the right or authority to judge anyone as a heretic?


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Pope St Pius X - WARNED 1907


Matthew 18:6

"He that scandalizes (stumbles) one of these little ones (the faithful), who believes in me, to fall into sin, it were better for him (the stumbler) that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea."

This is exactly what has happened leading up to, during and after

the Vatican II Council.

Matthew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

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Canon Gregory Hesse

Commentary on Modernism and Pope St Pius X - (video)

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John 17:3

"This means eternal life; that they may know the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." 

St Thomas Aquinas, the angelic Doctor of the Church, one of, if not, the most revered theologians of the entire history of the Catholic Church made it clear in his work 'Catena Aurea" commenting on John 17:3 that it's not enough to just 'know' who God is, but that we know how to separate the wheat (truth) from the cockle (chaff) the false. (Matt. 13:24-25) Why? It literally means our everlasting life. We get one chance at this to get it right. The consequences for being wrong is far more dangerous then we an imagine.

ASK YOURSELF: Do you think it's remotely possible that we are, in fact, living during what Jesus called "THE LAST DAYS" before He comes again? He said there would not only be problems around the world with wars, famines, food shortage, lawlessness and even natural catastrophes like earthquakes and severe flooding around the world, but that there would be a GREAT APOSTASY within the very Church He established with Peter on earth. There would be a "man of sin and lawlessness" that would arrive to mislead Christ flock, a wolf in sheep's clothing; one who would look like a great shepherd-teacher like Peter but ultimately who's behind the man of lawlessness? SATAN. Could it be that we are experiencing this times Jesus spoke about?

If the answer is "YES!", next question; ARE YOU READY  FOR IT?


Why not look for a priest who administers traditional Catholic sacraments mentioned on page 1. 

Proverbs 119:109, "Our life is in our hands..." God gave us everything we need; His Word, His Holy Spirit, His Holy Church and a mind and free-will to choose. Find a traditional Catholic Church.


Our own eternal destiny is in our hands.

Choose wisely

Ask yourself the following probing questions:


1.  Who do you rely on for final authority on these matters?


2.  How many quotes are necessary to make it clear what Our Lord Jesus said and the Holy Fathers that it’is absolutely necessary to be baptized into His Holy Apostolic Catholic Church in order to be saved and enter the kingdom of God?


3.  A parent shouldn't have to tell his child more than one time to obey them in crossing the street lest they put their lives in danger. Why is it any different with our heavenly Father? Did our Lord not admonish us to be like little children, not haughty self-important "adults"?


4.  One scripture and one Papal decree lead by Holy Spirit telling us we must be baptized into Christ Church to be saved should be enough. If it's not enough, we really need to ask ourselves why, if we are truly a Catholic Christian trying to follow Our Lord’s commands. Do we truly trust Our Lord and the traditions of the Church He established with Peter as the first father of the Church, the Pope?

Footnote: Jesus made it clear that SATAN the devil is a demon and a god of this world who has blinded people's minds to his ways. To dismiss the reality of this would be a fatal mistake.

Read 2 Corinthians 4:4 & 1 Peter 5:8-10 for starters.